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Risk / Reward – The Holy Grail of Forex Trading Money Management

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Risk vs RewardIf you were stranded on a desert island and somehow had access to the internet, a computer, and electricity, and you could only have one Forex trading educational article to read, this would be the article you would want to have…

A simple fact of Forex trading is that it is a game of probabilities, those traders who learn to view and think about trade setups in terms of risk to reward, are the ones who usually end up making consistent money in the Forex market. There is something to be said for developing your discretionary trading skills, as having a sharpened sense for spotting well defined trade setups at the right place and time is definitely a necessary ingredient to successful trading. However, it is possible to make consistent money even if your discretionary trade setup identification skills are not fully matured yet. Risk to reward setups are what give all traders an equal chance at making consistent money, a thorough understanding of risk to reward and how to view trade setups in terms of possible risk to possible reward, is the closest thing to the “holy grail” of trading, and is one of the most important pieces of the puzzle to consistently profitable trading, second only to having the proper amount of self-discipline and emotional control.

• Drawing risk / reward levels

The first thing that all traders should do upon spotting a price action setup, or any trade setup, is calculate the risk they will have to take on in order to give the setup a realistic chance at working out. Traders often make one or two mistakes when it comes to determining risk; they either define the reward first, which is a mistake born out of greed, or they put a stop loss on the setup that is much too close to the entry to give the trade a chance at working out.

When learning to think in probabilities and to view the market in terms of risk to reward, it is necessary to calculate the risk on a trade setup first, then you can calculate the reward as a multiple of the amount you have at risk. By concentrating on the risk first, instead of the reward, you are making yourself more aware of the risk involved on each trade setup, instead of becoming fixated on how big of a reward you might make, as many traders do. This will also turn you into a “risk manager”, rather than a “trader”, the best traders in the world know that consistent trading profits come as a result of managing risk effectively, so consider yourself a manager of risk from now on.

The next thing to do after you have identified a high-quality trade setup and marked the risk level on your chart, is to mark the reward levels as multiples of your risk. You want to draw a line at 1 times your risk, 2 times your risk, and 3 times your risk. These are the reward levels you will mainly concern yourself with, should you choose to employ a trailing stop you can use these 1, 2, and 3 times risk levels to begin the trailing process, see the section on “trailing stops” below for more.

Examples of how to draw risk / reward levels:

First, we identify a high-quality price action trading setup, in the chart below we are looking at the 1hr chart of the EURUSD from this week. A quality 1hr pin bar sell signal formed at a confluent intra-day resistance level and in the direction of the bearish momentum on the daily chart.

Next, we mark our risk level for this setup, in this case the risk is the distance from the low to the high of the pin bar, so we place a stop loss at 1.3656, one pip above the high, the entry is a break of the low, so 1.3611 is our entry level, one pip below the low. The total risk distance for this setup is 45 pips, we will figure 1$ per pip for the examples in this article, so our risk is $45, not 45 pips. Since you can trade various numbers of lots per pip, your actual risk is not calculated in pips, but in dollars, many traders make this mistake. Remember; always calculate your risk and reward in dollars, not in pips, only use pips to mark the risk and reward levels on your charts. (we expanded on this in this in our forex money management article here )

Now we can use this measure of 45 pips to mark our 1, 2, and 3 times risk multiples. Since our risk (R) is $45, our 1R multiple is $45, or 2R multiple is $90, and our 3R multiple is $135. Since our stop loss distance is 45 pips, we subtract the 1, 2, and 3 multiples of 45 from our entry point of 1.3611; we then get the levels marked on the chart below. This setup obviously worked out quite nicely as all three risk multiples got hit, for a reward of 1 to 3. It is worth noting that trade setups on the smaller time frames are more likely to hit larger risk multiples since your stop loss will usually be tighter than it will be on a higher time frame. The trade is now set up, time to let the market get to work.

In the chart below we are looking the daily Silver market, we can see a quality pin bar fakey combo setup formed with the dominant bullish market momentum. We first marked our risk distance which was 1.13; we then multiply our risk (1.13) by 1, 2 and 3, to get our (R) risk multiple levels. We can see them drawn in on the chart below and also that this setup easily brought traders a risk / reward of 1 to 3 before forming another very nice pin bar strategy that sent prices lower. This example also figured 1$ per pip, or per smallest incremental price movement on silver, this results in $113 risked.

• Trailing stops

If you decide that you want to try and let a particular trade setup run, you might want to employ a trailing stop strategy with the aid of risk / reward levels. The best way to do this is to mark your risk and reward levels just as described above, but instead of actually entering an order for your reward levels, you leave the trade open, meaning you don’t have a set exit at your pre-defined reward levels. Instead, once the market moves in your favor, you use your pre-defined reward levels to trail your stop loss to, thus leaving the trade open and giving yourself a shot at greater profits, while still locking in some profit and lessening risk.

A common technique to use when trailing stops to risk / reward levels is to trail the stop up to your entry level when the trade is up 1 times or 2 times your risk. You can also trail your stop 50% closer to your entry once you are up 1 times risk if you want to leave the trade more “breathing” room. Many traders will simply keep their stop 1R multiple away, meaning if you are up 1 to 2, you trail your stop up to lock on 1 times your risk, if the market than moves 1 to 3 you trail your stop up to lock in 2 times your risk. This is a solid trailing technique because you are securing profits while at the same time leaving the trade open for a possibility at it running further in your favor. This technique is best used in strong trends. Many traders make the mistake when trailing stops of not properly locking in profits, there is nothing worse than letting a winning trade come all the way back to your entry point because you didn’t lock in 1 or 2 times your risk.

The daily AUDUSD chart below shows an inside bar setup that occurred back in mid-September of this year when the AUDUSD was in the midst of an uptrend. In this example you could have moved your stop to break-even once you were up $108 or 1 times your risk, once you got up 2 times risk you could have locked in 1 times your risk or $108. It looks like the market hit 0.9600 or 3R and then pulled back into 2R, however it came about 1 pip shy of 3R on its first attempt, so you would not have moved your stop up until it cleared 3R a couple days later. At this point you would have 2R or $216 locked in, at this point you could either let the trade run past 3R or move your stop up to lock in 3R or $324. If you moved up to lock in 3R right away you would have got stopped out at 3R by the pin bar on September 5th, had you not locked in 3R you could have eventually made 4 or 5R.

• How risk / reward can make you a consistently profitable forex trader

Ideally, we want to look for trade setups with a risk / reward of at least 1 to 2, by getting a risk / reward of 1 to 2 on every trade setup, we can lose on well over 50% of our trades and STILL make money. This is why risk / reward is the “holy grail” of trading; if you execute it properly you can make consistent money over a period of time. However, many traders mess it up or limit its power by meddling in their trades once they are live, usually this means they take less than a 1 to 2 profit, and then enter another trade that is lower-probability, and maybe take a loss. Once you start this game of meddling with your trades and interfering with the power of risk reward scenarios, you really put limits on what you can achieve as a forex trader.

To play with the numbers a bit let’s discuss a scenario where you lose on 65% of your trades, but your risk to reward on every trade is 1 to 2. So, out of 100 trades you lose on 65 of them and win on 35 of them, let’s say you risk $100 per trade. This means you lost 65 x $100 = $6500, but since you made 2 times your risk on your winners you made 35 x $200 = $7000. So, after 100 trades you have a profit of $500, this is even after you lost on 65% of your trades! This is an example of the power of risk / reward setups, the trick is that it takes time to play out, most traders do not have the discipline to execute 100 trades flawlessly with a risk / reward of 1 to 2 and suffer through 65 losses and only 35 winners.

The lesson to be learned from this article is that you can make still money in the forex markets even if you lose far more trades than you win, IF you understand and properly implement risk to reward scenarios on every single trade you take. You must combine this knowledge of risk to reward with a plethora of self discipline, you must understand that you cannot waver or second guess yourself, if you are trading a solid trading strategy like price action combined with risk reward knowledge and self-discipline, you have the potential to be an unstoppable trader. To learn more about price action trading and risk to reward, check out some of the other cool parts of my website and my price action trading course.

Good trading, Nial Fuller

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is a Professional Trader & Author who is considered ‘The Authority’ on Price Action Trading. He has a monthly readership of 250,000+ traders and has taught 20,000+ students since 2008. In 2016, Nial won the Million Dollar Trader Competition. Checkout Nial's Professional Trading Course here.
  1. MUNGE GATHURI September 18, 2019 at 1:23 pm

    This is an article that need to be reread as many times upto the point it is engrained the sub- conscious mind thankyou again for the great article.

    Reply
  2. caroline Alegbe September 18, 2019 at 2:25 am

    Thanks for this write up.

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  3. Yakawonya Rutson September 16, 2019 at 4:44 am

    Always out with a winner post A teacher to cherish Thanks many thanks over

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  4. eessien edet September 16, 2019 at 1:15 am

    Hi Nial,
    I enjoy reading your wisdom-filled articles on trading the financial markets. I have been trading for some years now, picking up useful trading nuggets along the way. Your latest article is, as usual, content packed.

    Thanks Nial for your awesome trading insights.

    Essien.

    Reply
  5. Nour September 15, 2019 at 11:45 am

    Nial, you are the godfather of the Forex trading.

    Reply
  6. NKAMA September 15, 2019 at 12:55 am

    You are too much sir. By this you have solved most of my problems.

    Reply
    • Ekpebo Edwin September 19, 2019 at 7:36 am

      Thanks for all the vital information on retracement trading- entry signals, stop loss placing and profit taking. You sure opened my mind to new idea.

      Reply
  7. Medi September 14, 2019 at 5:29 pm

    You tha God sent!

    Reply
  8. NGUYEN QUOC THANG September 14, 2019 at 1:28 pm

    Pls support me to explain more about ” Event area ” in the line ” Retrace Entry Back to an Event Area or Prior PA signal.

    Thank you
    THANG

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  9. Mahmudul Hasan September 14, 2019 at 1:32 am

    Super Nial bro…..

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  10. Diário de um Poupador March 5, 2018 at 1:32 am

    Hi, i am a brazilian guy who trades for years. I pause my trades during some years, and i came back about 2 months ago. I’ve been trying a strategy with short take, and it has given to me a lot of profits. I am trying to make my mind strong to ignore the market’s movement after i book profit. You have said a very right thing here: the market always makes a retraction.

    This article was very good, thanks. Keep it that way. God bless you.

    Reply
  11. Solomon Olusegun Oyeniyi December 13, 2017 at 9:24 am

    Thank you for this article.

    Reply
    • Liton khan September 16, 2019 at 12:14 am

      Very nice Boos.ok go forawd.

      Reply
  12. GANDUS December 4, 2017 at 6:10 am

    Great always to hear you big brooother Nail. God bless you. timely article for me. love

    Reply
  13. Noor Azman Abd Aziz November 26, 2017 at 2:10 am

    Nice and very interesting. This article answer the questions why i always close trades with losses while actually I have been profitting during the trading session.

    Reply
  14. Sboniso Malambule November 24, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    ive bee reading your lessons im impressed

    Reply
  15. Azmi Yusoff October 17, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    Interesting article. This happen everytime. The idea of wanting to wait a little more time may cause us to lose what is supposed to be a profit instead.

    Reply
  16. Ayanda Mabuza September 18, 2017 at 10:56 am

    reading such artecles really opens my mind.Thanks Nail

    Reply
  17. Roy Peters September 1, 2017 at 2:39 am

    This happened to me recently on Eurgbp. Up 200 pips and thought it’d go higher. Next day market came down and I booked only 40pips!
    I learn a big lesson.

    Reply
  18. Rafari July 31, 2017 at 1:29 am

    ok, its been almost 2 years since I start to learn how the market move. I can say most of your articles give me a vision about how to, what to do and don’t. It’s cool because I start move to learn draw some major snr, I got stuck on making it, but your articles show me some clever way to draw “a key level” and some short term. I’ll try my best to practice it everyday !!!

    Thanks Nial, You’re Awesome !

    Reply
  19. kgothatso July 28, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    U ar really a genus.sir u teached me that i should take a risk than to lose the chance **#great things come to those who hustle (lovely)$$$$$

    Reply
  20. Alan Gillanders June 25, 2017 at 3:25 am

    Hi Nial,
    Thanks for the lesson. This has been my problem for some time. Greed. Always waiting to take more with a small investment. My profits evaporate and majority of times end in a loss.
    In the last 6 weeks I have been taking the small profits. 100 – 200 points instead of trying to get 500-1000 points. seems to be working ok. Thanks again

    Reply
  21. oluwatosn Matthew June 23, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    That’s a good trading guide. Thanks nial.

    Reply
  22. Ages Justice June 22, 2017 at 5:40 am

    Keep it up Mentor. God bless you more!

    Reply
  23. Louis June 21, 2017 at 11:43 am

    This is exactly what was missing from my trading. Realistic exit plans. Thank you Nial.

    Reply
  24. endurance oki June 21, 2017 at 8:05 am

    thank you sir for your well prepared article. Im a victim of this very situation , i’ve almost hit my profit target then i said i should let the profit run but to my very face , the profits were evaporating until i closed the trade .

    Reply
  25. DAVID SHUBE June 20, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    Thanks Nial, booking profits on-time is right, cos too much emotional traits is involved when one realized that the trade is going to retrace unexpectedly.

    Reply
  26. PEERALLY June 20, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    Thank you, Nial.

    Reply
  27. Kate M June 20, 2017 at 6:49 am

    Thanks Nial, way to go. You keep writing evolving lessons like these, Ill always have something to learn. And again an opportune time to write this particular article, I think you are the Yoda of trading:)

    Reply
  28. Lucas Obiora June 19, 2017 at 9:07 am

    Thanks Nial, that’s an eye opener to me, I have that problem of letting profits run into losses, thank you very much for the article.

    Reply
  29. Kay June 19, 2017 at 8:49 am

    Thank you Nial, well explained and organized article. Definitively help me to prepare my Profit plan. Regards

    Reply
  30. smg June 19, 2017 at 3:17 am

    Thank you

    Reply
  31. richadi36 June 19, 2017 at 2:07 am

    Thanks Nial. I really got immense knowledge about booking profits.

    Reply
  32. Suleiman Bhadmus June 18, 2017 at 11:14 pm

    Amazing,am definitely going to include all this point in my trading plan. Though am still on demo, but what have learned from this article in very key to a successful trading.
    Thanks a lot Mr.Nail Fuller.

    Reply
  33. Matt June 18, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    This happened to me last week. Was up 700 proffit and closed with 700 loss because i had such an attachment to what i thought was a fullproof longterm move in one direction so i wanted to ride the waves but it looks like it wasnt the long term move in that direction i thouht it was.

    Reply
  34. akhtar butt June 18, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    Hi, Dear Nial Fuller, , excellent, well-explained with reality and experience. Thank, cheer

    Reply
    • Bebe April 30, 2019 at 7:57 pm

      Excellent article,Thanks Nail

      Reply
  35. Akpos June 17, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    Nice….this has been my bane in trading. Not booking profit….

    Reply
  36. John Promise June 17, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    Thanks Nial. My mentor.
    Remain blessed.

    Reply
  37. Thendo June 17, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    Thanks Nial.. great advise. Am looking forward to not closing or closing when the trade goes against you but hasn’t hit your stop loss…

    Reply
  38. Luis June 17, 2017 at 12:20 pm

    Thanks so much Neil as always, great article!, mm please i have a question, what about the case that all the other trading books and gurus says about let profits run until at least 1:2 Risk reward ratio? , because they say if i close before that 1:2 im cutting my profits and that can damage me in the long run! , but in the real life im bored to wait sometimes for a 1:2 and when im at 90% to achieve that profit target the markets turns down eliminating all my profits and making a loss for me, but when i book the profits i see my account growing, what you can reccomend me about that?.

    Reply
  39. Bruno June 17, 2017 at 10:48 am

    Before reading the whole article, I’m writing this! Just the header alone struck the cord. Toy, Nial, are a mind reading mentor! I’m at that stage in my trading where my edge is consistently delivering profits! But, yes, most times, these profits evaporate. Alot is happening around the political and business world and price is fluctuating between these events. Yes, price still does was it’ll do, but the whipsawing is alarming! I can’t say enough how soothing this article is to me because I make sizeable % of my Acct only to watch some diminish or disappear, even into losers.

    Thank you for this article.

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  40. Mavhungu Lufuno June 17, 2017 at 9:14 am

    Amen

    Reply
  41. Elpadrino June 17, 2017 at 4:54 am

    Thanks Nial #Legendary

    Reply
  42. Alin June 17, 2017 at 4:20 am

    I am one of those loosers who do not book much profits on the trades, because I’m setting
    way too large TPs. Thanks for the posting!

    Reply
  43. Shankara Motay June 17, 2017 at 3:59 am

    Thank you very much

    Reply
  44. Rongsquare June 17, 2017 at 12:44 am

    Amazing thank you Nail

    Reply
  45. Mike Coe June 16, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    Your articles just keep getting better and better, Nial! Great stuff! Thank you very much.

    Reply
  46. Siyabonga Mkhize June 16, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    Powerful thank you sir

    Reply
  47. KRISTOFA OKENTA June 16, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    Good Teaching As Always.
    Thank you For Sharing Your
    Heart With Us.

    Reply

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