Comments on: Don’t Measure Your Profits in Percentages or Pips https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance Learn Price Action Trading with Nial Fuller Tue, 28 Mar 2023 23:03:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: Luke-odah https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1310417 Tue, 28 Mar 2023 23:03:10 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1310417 In reply to Mahlomola.

Thank you so much
We keep learning

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By: Timothy Sejeng https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1304283 Wed, 18 May 2022 03:25:45 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1304283 Great article. That’s very true and reasonable. It doesn’t help measuring risk to reward with percentages or pips because at the end of the day, it boils back to how much dollars a trader made or lost

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By: hoang ha https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1301911 Mon, 24 Jan 2022 03:21:14 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1301911 Thank you so much Nial for the article if it wasn’t for your article I wouldn’t know how to start over, I’ve been trading for a while and lost a lot
Thank you for your valuable knowledge, Nial, I will try to learn and improve more from you

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By: Malachi Orode https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1300893 Mon, 27 Dec 2021 16:09:21 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1300893 love your concepts and style of communication. Thanks again and again.
Each time I read your articles, my wife asks me “why are you smiling” and I tell her Nial is speaking to my faults and deficiencies. ai have a lot of unlearning to do. bad habits must go with 2021.
Thumbs up.

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By: Victor https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1299042 Tue, 26 Oct 2021 09:41:04 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1299042 Hi Nial

Thank you for the great article. It will help me a lot. I have been taking trading seriously for the past 5 to 6 months and I had been up and down. I took a $180 to $2 000 twice but blew it and l have to start from scratch because of a lack of knowledge. From now on since I have the knowledge of R, I will track my trades and I will risk money, not pips or percentages.

Thanks again

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By: DAVID ARMOUR https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1296752 Tue, 31 Aug 2021 11:06:27 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1296752 Learning More And More Each Day Nial… Thank You So Much For Sharing Your Knowledge… It Is Greatly Appreciated. I Am A New Trader Trying To Learn The Ropes And Learning From You Clearly Shows Me That Trading Should Be Done The Right Way…

The Best Way Is To Learn The Right Way…

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By: Nial Fuller https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1291974 Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:19:29 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1291974 In reply to Mahlomola.

Cheers! Thanks for the feedback.

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By: Mahlomola https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1291888 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:06:40 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1291888 I think I m getting a better picture as I reading this important articles and I planning to to read and practice them too

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By: Andrew https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1290490 Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:38:34 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1290490 A few successful forex traders I follow always refer to ” R “. I figure that If It’s good enough for them then It’s surely something us mere mortals should adopt.

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By: Muhammad Abdulrahman Dedes https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1283427 Mon, 19 Oct 2020 17:47:12 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1283427 I am a beginner trader but i have reading your writings concerning trading they are really motivating me and they do make sense.

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By: David https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1261992 Wed, 06 May 2020 20:27:03 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1261992 Personally it makes a lot of sense to me ????

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By: Nesbert https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1258883 Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:49:53 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1258883 Thank you , we keep on learning

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By: DmitrIy https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1233706 Wed, 12 Jun 2019 10:07:19 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1233706 Hi, Nial!
Thank you for that article.
I never heard about such approach before, but through this text I saw that this is really important and exceptionally useful!
100% I put it into my trading strategy.
Thank you so much!
Best regards, Dmitriy.

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By: elly https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1232703 Wed, 29 May 2019 12:41:13 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1232703 You are just the best at what you do………THANX NIAL.

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By: Jeremy Beavan https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1222880 Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:26:56 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1222880 Hi Nial

I agree , leverage is what it’s all about

I trade Indices intraday , I’m happy with a 1-1 RR as I trade high probability set ups , 1to 3 trades per day

I use price action along with confluence levels for my entries with as tight a stop as I can get

Very interesting reading your take on the markets, no bullshit & a lot of common sense

Regards

Jeremy

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By: Sipho Moganedi https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1196579 Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:09:46 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1196579 I like measuring my trading performance in Rands (South African) rather than pips. I can’t buy anything with pips or percentages. Since I know my ‘R” factor is 2,2 meaning for every Rand I lose I gain 2,2 rands. So to me now a losing trade is a means to profits.

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By: Pavel https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1152422 Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:47:08 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1152422 Thank you! A few months ago I needed a better way how to monitor performance of my trades and I develop RRR points (you called it R). It is the best way to watch my progress. People around me use pips, but they can’t trade different positions (50 pips on SL and 150 pips on SL) because they don’t handle position size. So my way is much better and more accurate. But because I am not a consistent trader (yet) my opinion is… just opinion against bigger and more successful traders.
Thank you, you show to me that I am right :)

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By: David https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1132686 Wed, 18 Oct 2017 22:38:12 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1132686 Thanks Niall – this concept of “R” has provided great clarity for me – has instantly changed my mindset

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By: Calvin https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-1111025 Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:59:43 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-1111025 I have read many trading websites online, 3 article posts from your website is worth 1000 websites online. You bring the best knowledge. thank you

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By: Larry H. https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-64440 Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:30:30 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-64440 Hi Nial,
Really like your R method of measuring ones trading results. Really make a lot of “cents”.
I’m thinking if a trader profits 2R on a given trade and 1R on another trade — is the first trade actually twice as good as the second? Seems that you must incorporate a time factor into your analysis and thinking. What if the first trade took two months to complete…and the second trade only took two days? NEED TO COMPARE “APPLES” TO “APPLES”.
So…I’m going to start to use your R concept to measure my trading results but at the same time incorporate a time factor as I look at how long I was in EACH of the two trades.
So a trading result might go something like this, “On my last trade I profited 2.5R per trading day”. Thanks Larry

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By: KRISTOFA OKENTA https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-29781 Sat, 29 Oct 2011 09:44:26 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-29781 Dear my Prof Nial, I wish that you see or read my mind.
You have really hit the nail on the head as it concerns
money management.
Thank you again.

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By: hart https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-29775 Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:51:15 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-29775 Thanks Nial
Glad you wrote this lesson. Can now see the logic of fixed amount risk per trade.

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By: Anton https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28850 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:52:46 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28850 Hi Nial, all your articles are excellent and is really hard to say which one is the best. I can only recommend your Price Action course for everyone, daily commentary, forum.. … on your web.Thanks

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By: AMIN MALIK https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28604 Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:19:31 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28604 MY dear NAIL,Thank you so much for your excellent articles.
You are simply marvelous. GOD BLESS YOU.

Warm REGARDS
AMIN MALIK

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By: Janene https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28435 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:56:01 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28435 Thank you Nial for another great article, I’m always learning more from them.

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By: Mithun https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28351 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:32:48 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28351 Nice Article Nial !!

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By: solator https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28262 Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:44:06 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28262 Hi, Nial, that is a good article again! I understand that you actually say – risk a certain amount (for most of us it will be a %) but not of your forex account but of your overall money that you can afford to use for trading. I like it very much as it inspired me not to put all the money to my trading account. Thus I can “diversify” and feel safer – in case my broker should get into troubles… Thank you!

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By: Marvin Hacker https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28232 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 14:44:10 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28232 Greetings, All,

If you are not yet successful in trading in the markets but desire to become consistently successful, I can think of no better “path” to take than signing on to be trained and mentored by a successful PRICE-ACTION trader such as Niles Fuller.

Best regards,

:) Marv

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By: joe https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28217 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:58:56 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28217 Good insight!Keep it up.

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By: Vijay https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28170 Wed, 07 Sep 2011 22:00:19 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28170 Fantastic Nial !!!!!

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By: Jim Foster https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28147 Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:50:41 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28147 Simple, effective and common sense, thanks again Nial!

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By: nico https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28146 Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:47:03 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28146 wonderfull!!!!

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By: Emea Egwu https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28137 Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:42:08 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28137 Thank you for what you just post now is every good thing that we calculate our trading the risked rewards riot. Thank you

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By: Mike https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28124 Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:49:25 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28124 I measure my trades the same way….wouldn’t even thought of doing it any other way….I love the way you keep things simple.
Cheers
Mike

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By: Leslie https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28119 Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:52:19 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28119 Great article! Really sums up what i’ve been reading from before into one article, concise and to the point! Now i do have a thoroughly better understanding of this area of risk management. Very good lesson indeed, thanks once again!

Leslie

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By: Paul https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28109 Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:39:45 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28109 Another top notch article. This is exactly how I trade and in fact have always viewed money management. Straight forward common sensical approach… why make it any harder than it has to be. Cheers Nial!

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By: Eve https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28096 Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:43:13 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28096 RR ratio is one of moste important thing in recording your trades, of course. And it helps to keep emotions back. And RR on amount is only reliable.

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By: Piotr Janiga https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28078 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:15:00 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28078 Fantastic article Niall!

I would like to ask a question though..

What is the best way to calculate your risk/reward scenario after taking 100 trades if you decide to risk 2% of your account value on every each trade? Your R on every trade will be different.. Does it mean that you have to keep the same amount of money at risk for some period of time on all trades that you make?? After every trade your account value will change so you 2% risk (R)will change too.

Thanks in advance

Piotr

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By: Azeem https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28077 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:32:02 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28077 Nail,

Thanks Nail, Excellent article and very informative. You are reading the minds of trader.

Regards,

Azeem

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By: Steve https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28074 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 12:51:48 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28074 Thanks niall,

Another great lesson. I make so much money with your pin precise techniques. 25 pip stops, high leverage, and R multiples are the way forward!

Steve

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By: Saravanan https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28073 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:47:19 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28073 Good In each trader take this point out every trade period get closure progress about their trading

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By: steve portman https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28063 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 22:32:15 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28063 Very important advice that one’s account can consist in moneys available for use but not just sitting with a broker. Very good lesson”

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By: Paul Samoey https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28060 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:14:28 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28060 This gives a good perspective of trade performance.
Great stuff Nial.
Greetings from KENYA

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By: tariq https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28058 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:09:24 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28058 i like the idea

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By: Intazar Hussain https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28054 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 12:49:58 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28054 Once again great piece of advice ! Thank you.

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By: Robert https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28052 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:06:16 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28052 Nial,
I have been using the “R” multiple in measuring performance for a while now which I learned from the “Dr Van Tharp” news letters.
However, it took quite a while before I finally realized what he was on about.
Your explanation is much more concise and I am sure it will be of great benefit to all traders.
Well done.
Regards
Robert

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By: Nyoman L. https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28047 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:23:40 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28047 Incredible article, Nial! Your explanation is truly eye-opening. I do think that trading performance should be measured in risk versus reward and the “R” concept is easier to understand. But in my small account, as I’m improving my accuracy along the way, I need to put survival my priority so position sizing must be done carefully to give the price action trading strategies enough chances to work. My best wishes all for you. Please, keep enlighten us.

All the best,
Nyoman L.

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By: T Allen https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28046 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 03:52:13 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28046 Right ON Nial – this is key to understanding performance. Thanks for the nice summary.

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By: Mike https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28041 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 23:26:02 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28041 Good stuff….ton of value!!!!

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By: Mathew https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/forex-articles/how-does-a-professional-trader-manage-risk-and-track-trading-performance#comment-28039 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:53:44 +0000 https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/?p=9134#comment-28039 Thanks Nial, I would just like to say that I really admire your dedication and consistency in getting out great articles for both non and paid up members to learn from. As a paid up member I believe I am now (after recently implementing your methods)in a better postition than I ever have been after 3years (of not using your ‘simple’/ profitable methods). Keep up the great work

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